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- Origin_of_the_Bagratid_dynasties abstract "The Bagratid dynasties – Bagratuni (Բագրատունյաց) in Armenia and Bagrationi (ბაგრატიონი) in Georgia – count among the longest-reigning royal families in the Caucasus (and in Europe), starting as princely houses and attaining to the royal status in both countries in the 9th century. The origins of the Bagratids are disputed though more widely accepted version has it that the both dynasties had common roots, beginning in Armenia and branching later into Georgia. The Armenian house went extinct by the 12th century, while the Georgian line, continues to this day as the nominal Royal House of Georgia according to Cyrill Tourmanoff. The root of the names Bagrationi and Bagratuni, Bagrat-, derives from the Old Persian Bagadāta, "God-Given". In Armenia and Georgia, the respective names for the Bagratid dynasties literally translate to "The children of/house established by Bagrat" (Bagrat + Classical Greek: - id, "the children").Rival tales have been developed in Georgia and Armenia regarding the origins of the dynasties. The Bagratids of Armenia are speculated to have been an offshoot of the Orontid Dynasty, Achaemenid satraps and, later, kings of Armenia (c 400 – c 200 BC). They had their original appanage in Bagrevand in historic north-central Armenia and claimed their descent from a solar deity Angl-Thork, the tutelary god of the Orontids, until their conversion to Christianity. Thereafter, this claim was abandoned in favor of the mythical ancestor of the Armenians, Hayk. Later, under biblical influences, they entertained another claim, of Hebrew ancestry, first articulated by Moses of Khorene, and developed by the Georgians into a claim of their descent from the biblical king-prophet David Once the Georgian branch, who had quickly acculturated in the new environment, assumed royal power, the myth of their biblical origin helped to assert their legitimacy and emerged as a main ideological pillar of the millennium-long Bagrationi rule in Georgia from 575 AD to 1810 AD. The claim is given no credence by modern scholarship. The harp on their Coat of Arms is a reference that ancestry.The traditional Georgian narrative regarding the origin of the Bagrationi can be traced back to the 11th century. According to the Georgian chronicler of that time Sumbat Davitis-Dze, as published by Prince Vakhushti Bagrationi (1696–1757), who added chronological interpretations, the ancestors of the dynasty traced their descent to the biblical King David, and came from Palestine around 530 AD. Tradition has it that of seven refugee brothers of the Davidic line, three of them settled in Armenia and the other four in Kartli (also known as Iberia by Classical authors), where they intermarried with the local ruling houses and acquired some lands in hereditary possession. One of the four brothers, Guaram (died in 532), allegedly gave an origin to a line subsequently called Bagrationi after his son Bagrat. A successor, Guaram, was installed as a presiding prince of Kartli under the Byzantine protectorate and bestowed, on this occasion, with the Byzantine court title of Kouropalates in 575. Thus, according to this version, began the dynasty of the Georgian Bagratids, who ruled until 1801. This tradition had been given a general acceptance until the early 20th century. While the Jewish origin, let alone the biblical descent of the Bagratids, has been largely discounted by modern scholarship, the issue of their origin still remains controversial. Several Soviet-era historians of Georgia developed a view summarized by N. Berdzenishvili et al. in their standard reference book on the history of Georgia:Certain, generation-by-generation, history of the family begins only in the 8th century, when the downfall of the rival clan of the Mamikonians helped the Bagratids to emerge as a major force in the ongoing struggle against the Arab rule.The Russian-American scholar Cyril Toumanoff gives little credit to the medieval narratives, regarding both claimed biblical descent and descent from Guaram. Toumanoff traces the origins of the family to ancient Ispir, but according to him, the Georgian branch of the family appeared only in the 8th century, during an anti-Arab rebellion in 772, when one of the sons of Ashot III Bagratuni, called Vasak fled into Iberia (Georgia). His son, Adarnase, was granted hereditary possessions in Klarjeti and Samtskhe by the Georgian dynast Archil. Adarnase’s son Ashot gained the principate of Iberia and founded the last royal dynasty of Georgia.In 2006, Prof. David H. Kelley, A noted American-Canadian Scholar, as well as friend and correspondent of Fra Cyril, (formerly Prince Toumanoff, as well as Prof. Em. Toumanoff), published a new thesis, in Foundations, the journal of the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, wherein he hypothesizes that, the Georgio-Iberian tradition antedating the Armenian tradition by several centuries, and the older traditions linking the Georgio-Iberian lines to the Armenian line do so through a female of the Armenian family, formerly claiming only a nebulous Jewish origin, the Bagratuni co-opted the claim of Davidic descent from the Bagrationi, who claimed descent from David in the male line and the Bagratuni through a distaff line. Kelley further goes on to identify names in the traditions of Moses of Χorene and Juanshar, (an historian married into the families involved), with actual historical personages of record. He would make the Bagrationi female descendants of the Bagratuni, but a male-line branch of the Jewish Rosh haGolah, (Hebrew, [Roshim, pl.] 'head[s] of the Exile', Resh Galuta in Aramaic, usually called 'Exilarch' in English. This would be the branch of the exilarchs (of the House of David) descended from the Sassanid Shahs of Persia and, thus, related to the Umayyad Khalifs.These traditions have also been informed by factual kings of Armenia, (e.g.: Tigran V & VI, q.v.). of Jewish descent, described by, inter alia, Fl. Josephus, who notes that they did not live as Jews, i.e., did not practice the Jewish religion. They may have left Roman descendants, who would have become Byzantine, and, 'though they may have renounced their Jewish heritage, the Chroniclers and peoples did not; nor did these princes, or their ersatz subjects, forget the royal Armenian heritage that carried with it the possibility of crown and thrown.".
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- Origin_of_the_Bagratid_dynasties comment "The Bagratid dynasties – Bagratuni (Բագրատունյաց) in Armenia and Bagrationi (ბაგრატიონი) in Georgia – count among the longest-reigning royal families in the Caucasus (and in Europe), starting as princely houses and attaining to the royal status in both countries in the 9th century. The origins of the Bagratids are disputed though more widely accepted version has it that the both dynasties had common roots, beginning in Armenia and branching later into Georgia.".
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